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a couple of questions :-)

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:35 am
by nish81
hi there, I'm kinda new to this site, so please bear with me :-)

the forums have answered a lot of my questions already, and I'm left with a couple of small ones.

firstly: suppose I submit an article to helium. if I want to resubmit the article to constant-content.com as well, am I limited to the 'usage' license? I know I probably can't use the 'full rights' one, but can I use the 'unique' license? or does it being submitted to helium count as it being published?

secondly: I'm writing an article where I want to include a speech. the speech in question was made in the late 19th century in a trial. my question is, am I allowed to copy and paste the speech - as a direct quote - into my article? or would the speech be copyright. if it makes a difference, the speech was made in the USA.

thanks for any help :)

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:39 am
by Ed
1. You would only be able to ask usage rights in this case.

2. You may not copy and paste a full speech. This violates fair use rules.

Ed

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:01 am
by nish81
[quote="Ed"]1. You would only be able to ask usage rights in this case.

2. You may not copy and paste a full speech. This violates fair use rules.

Ed[/quote]

thanks for the prompt reply :)

One question about the speech thing. Would it be legal for me to quote a portion of the speech directly?

If not, I was thinking about just giving a link to the site which includes the speech. Although, I've had an article rejected for containing outside links. I think just one would be alright though? I've read that three are allowed in the guidelines though.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:18 am
by Ed
We do not accept articles with links or web addresses.

Please look up the correct way to quote a portion of text written by someone else, and how to cite the source.

Thanks,
Ed

Speech idea....

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:43 am
by mskatmoon
"One question about the speech thing. Would it be legal for me to quote a portion of the speech directly?

If not, I was thinking about just giving a link to the site which includes the speech. Although, I've had an article rejected for containing outside links. I think just one would be alright though? I've read that three are allowed in the guidelines though."

Maybe you could just summarize the speech something to the effect of...
In this speech by so and so {insert name here}, he (or she) said this {summary of speech}. Make sure though it's only a summary in your own words (I don't want to break any copyright laws and such).

I am not sure what angle you are taking in your article about the speech. You could also just give a place name (like "search the government's primary document list, or search the Internet to get a copy of the speech and so on.

Good luck!

Citing other authors

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:07 am
by sillymaxx
I'm not sure what Constant Content's exact rules are when citing works from another author as far as where you found the piece. If you are using a quote that is less than 4 lines of text, you include in quotes and in parenthesis you state the authors name (Doe, J., 1864). At the end of your article you could include a reference page that would look something like this:

Doe, J., (1894), Speech Title.
Smith, R. (1921), Name of article or book.

This is APA citation rules so to speak with a few details left out.

If you are quoting something that is more than 4 lines you should use indent block, but I don't think this is allowed on Constant Content. Block quotes should be used very sparingly anyway. I don't think there would be a problem quoting here and there as long it is formatted not to contain any links. If you give the authors name and the title of the piece and year, this will allow anyone to look up the piece to verify your claims.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:11 am
by nish81
hi constant content's community :D thanks for the very helpful advice.

mskatmoon, normally I would summarise the speech, but in this case I believe that the inclusion of a direct quote is necessary. so, I took sillymaxx's suggestion and quoted the most important 4 lines, and then advised the readers to do a google search if they wanted to read the full text.

thanks :)