Positive Response from LinkRoll re Mike's stolen posts

[canywriter]

Sorry for making this a new post, but I have just received a positive response from one Sid Stary asking which articles are stolen from CC and need to be deleted. I know of Debbi's and Peggy's articles, but there are many more familiar titles. Could you check and mail sid at sid@33rpm.com.

[canywriter]

Update : Sid just mailed to say he has removed all of Mike's articles from LinkRoll. So one more down. Now to see where he turns up next!

Cany

[Debbi]

Do you think these content thieves make significant revenue from these articles? I keep considering writing some revenue share articles for other sites but hear so many stories of getting 80 cents a month from them that I reject the idea.

[canywriter]

Would like to share this mail from Sid:

"I have also deleted his account and banned the IP address from which he was posting these. not that this will stop people like this forever, but its all I can do from here. if you or any of the other writers on CC, et al., see any other stolen content, feel free to email me and I will take care of it pronto."


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Cany

[canywriter]

Debbi

I write for Suite 101. Revenue share is a slow model, but there are many on Suite forums that swear by the residual revenue model, especially if you can post frequently. I don't, since I have a day job, and I prefer writing for CC. But you might like to check it out - there definitely seems to be a rule of minimum mass - around 100 articles, I think, when things begin rolling. And, you can republish those articles after one year on Suite.

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Cany

[Debbi]

Wonderful about LinkRoll! Isn't it nice to hear about serious re remedies like that?

100 articles! That would take me years at my snail's pace.......

[canywriter]

Yeah, it is slow - I have only fifty! And am making small change, but learning a lot about SEO and stuff. But remember, the income is something you get every month whether you write that month or not, so it's cool that way. And it's repeat income, month after month. Like CC, you can write on any topic of your interest.

[Celeste Stewart]

Revenue share sites have not panned out well for me. I've really only given AC a fair shot so I can't comment on the other ones. Having reached a Clout 10 with over 200 articles accepted on ac, my total earnings after three years equals just two weeks of earnings at CC. It's nice to not do anything and let my articles continue sending money my way, but each month's pay really only pays for lunch out with the kids. I could do better with a little more effort, but I prefer focusing on CC and using AC as a secondary strategy such as a place for articles that aren't selling on CC or that have sold for usage rights.

Oh wait, there's Squidoo. Awesome community there, but my experiment there was an absolute disaster moneywise. I spent well over 30 hours creating 40-50 lenses back in January and I think I'm up to maybe $5 in revenue. Sorry, not going to invest any more time there.

[Debbi]

I was thinking about DS. In addition to their flat rate paying articles, they also have revenue share. But it seems like so much work for so little reward. I'd rather focus on CC and try to help bring in more CC customers if possible. Customers who want dog articles! and of course the other things I like to write about.

[canywriter]

CC gets my vote any day - given that I have not really made a concentrated effort to write regularly - my income from here far exceeded my expectations.

Cany

[nichewriter]

CC gets my vote any day - given that I have not really made a concentrated effort to write regularly - my income from here far exceeded my expectations.

I second Cany. CC is the only place I sell my writing nowadays. Just for the fun of it, I applied at DS last month and got accepted. After logging in and taking a look, I decided it wasn't worth my time to write articles for DS, not when I can write whatever I want here on CC and make more. (And I've got plenty of ghostwriting projects outside of CC to keep me busy -- CC is actually my writing relief from the regular writing projects I do.)

[canywriter]

Congrats Debbi!!

I just saw your "How to train your dog to catch a frisbee" sold! What a coincidence!

Cany

[Lysis]

I was thinking about DS. In addition to their flat rate paying articles, they also have revenue share. But it seems like so much work for so little reward. I'd rather focus on CC and try to help bring in more CC customers if possible. Customers who want dog articles! and of course the other things I like to write about.

I make about $15 a month on 30 rev share articles on DS. Suite101 likes to brag abut their $5k/month writer, but that writer is definitely the exception to the rule. Most people see the $1/article/month revenue. CC is the best place to sell content, but rev share is nice in that you receive a paycheck every month while not doing anything. Most people quit, because you have to stick with it and your first dozen or so articles make nothing until you get the hang of it.

I like Suite101, but it's never going to be a real paycheck for me. I'd like to make $500/month on the site, but I am in the same boat as 99% of their writers. I am making about $1/article on the site and I have 80 up.

[Antonia]

I tried DS around the same time I started with CC. I found that most of the titles were too obscure for me to write without doing a fair bit of research. If I could keep it to 15 minutes an article, the guaranteed payout would be nice, but I found that I was spending too much time on writing and also on clicking through the endless pages looking for titles. Even though I wasn't making more than a few dollars on CC at that time, I could see clearly that the possibilities here are much greater.

It always makes me sad to read posts from folks who stop by CC for a few days, complain about the long acceptance times, whine about the quality standards, and repeat that they think it "doesn't work" despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. If only they would quit confusing "I don't understand how this works" with "It doesn't work," they could say goodbye to revenue pennies forever. I have been toying with the idea of creating some video tutorials and detailed how-tos for new writers but I'm not sure if the people who really need something like that would bother to use it.

[Debbi]

Antonia,

I wish you would make such training materials. Even if the people who didn't need them desparately didn't use them, other newbies would. It would add another level of information to CC's FAQ/guidlines and reduce confusion and uncertainty. People have such different learning styles. Some things don't sink in for auditory learners until they hear and see it on a video tutorial for example.

As I said in another post just a few minutes ago, I think redundant, repetitive instruction in as many learning modes as possible is the way to go. As any advertiser or schoolteacher knows, people need to see, hear, or do something multiple times before they understand, belive, or act on it.

Debbi