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Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:35 pm
by Volante
I just had my article rejected and have reworked it.
But as i was re-submitting my article, i found the public request gone from the request list even though it has not passed the expiry date.
What happened?
p.s: i'm referring to the Caviar public request which is 'low on history' and requires info on types of caviar and how it is 'making a comeback'.

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:42 pm
by nichewriter
Buyers have the option of closing public requests before the deadline so if you don't see a public request anymore, that's probably why.

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:44 pm
by Elizabeth Ann West
But if caviar is indeed making a comeback, by all means put the article in the general collection. I have had almost every public request article not picked up by the original author bought by another buyer down the road. Even one on boating dreams sunk by bankruptcy (how about that for specific and small niche).

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:05 pm
by Lysis
Yeah, don't even sweat it. Every article except for one that I've done for a public request has been picked up by someone else. The one article that hasn't been chosen, the buyer didn't buy anyone's, so it was a dud buyer altogether. I really don't even care if the original requester buys an article. It's nice if they do, because I feel like I've done a good job, but overall I don't sweat it being a sale.

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:09 pm
by Volante
ah thanks :)
Was hoping to jack up my earnings since the offer was really great. 3-400 word article for $50-100.
How much should i price it for it to be realistic now that its going to be on-sale to the public?

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:01 pm
by Elizabeth Ann West
No clue, but I would figure how much you think would be fair for the time you researched and wrote, and then tack on 35%. Well not really tack on 35%, that isn't right. Take what you want to make and divide that by .65. That will give you the amount you need to set the price at.

So if you want to make $20 on it full rights, divided by .65 is $30.76. Make it a round $31. Or if you can go a little lower than $20, price it at the subconscious playing amount of $29.99. :)

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:12 pm
by Celeste Stewart
Here's a fun math calculation for determining what to charge in order to account for CC's 35% cut:

$X x 1.538462 = Total Price (X=what you want to make)

So, if I want to make $35 for an article, I would use calculate:

$35 x 1.538462 = $53.85

Therefore, when the article sells for $53.85, CC will apply their calculation of $53.85 x .65 = $35 - I get $35!

Of course, you can round these numbers. $35 x 1.53 = $53.55. I'd round up to an even $55 as well.

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:49 pm
by 4rumid
I see where you get the 1.538462 from, but isn't it easier to just divide by .65? (Just asking :wink: !)

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:22 pm
by Celeste Stewart
Sure, you can multiply your desired price by .65 to get a sense of how much to add to your price, but it's not accurate. Plus, you then have to add that number to your price. Instead, use the $X x 1.53 and you'll know exactly what to charge to reach your desired price - not too much, not too little - with no additional calculations.

What's really the easiest is to plug the formula into your Excel spreadsheet and then enter your desired price and let Excel do the math. Easy!

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:28 pm
by nichewriter
Dividing the desired price by .65 is also a straightforward calculation. If I want to make $30 on an article: $30/.65 = $46.15 (and round it off to $47)

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:35 pm
by 4rumid
Right. The point is that multiplying by 1.538462 yields exactly the same result as dividing by .65, but the latter is a little easier. Then again, if you're using Excel, everything's easy.

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:55 am
by Celeste Stewart
Duh! I always make things more complicated then they need to be. Silly me. I took the long way to get to the obvious. :oops:

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:30 am
by Lysis
Celeste Stewart wrote:Duh! I always make things more complicated then they need to be. Silly me. I took the long way to get to the obvious. :oops:
I do the same thing. :-/

I had this BRILLIANT way to do a calculation for bio once...then, my lab partner was like "umm, you just need to do x." sheeeeesh. I felt dumb. LOL

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:36 am
by Sharion
Y'all are too funny! Actually got a laugh out of watching you guys go back and forth.

I just saw a boatload of articles sell for $20 each full rights. I cannot even fathom writing so fast, then rereading once or twice, spell checking and grammar checking, making sure it doesn't have hieroglyphs, writing a blurb, and keywords, saving it as a file type to upload, and be able to sell it for $20 full rights minus 35%. Takes 15-30 mins just to do the part AFTER you've finished the article, especially if one of your checks fails and you have to modify.

$20 x 65% = $13

I know I can't compete with that!

I think I read somewhere in the CC official docs where it was better to take less time on a piece so you could price it cheaper, than to price it higher. Trying to pound it out quicker = much higher risk of that nasty Reject word = more work for Ed with resubmissions.

Re: Where did the public request go?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:45 am
by Celeste Stewart
I know, it was funny. I was so sure my way was the easy way LOL. Cracks me up.

Sharion, not sure where you saw that but I don't think CC advocates rushing through a piece.